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Mud-and-Guts
Posts : 106
Join date : 2010-04-27
Age : 44
Location : Celina, TN
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ChrisC
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Join date : 2010-03-10
Age : 57
Location : Marietta GA
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:37 pm | |
| Neil , I am glad to see you finally seen the light....  That is a nice looking machine.....  Now , when you get out in the woods with it. you will say i should of done this years ago.....  You will not miss the Rhino at all......  | |
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Mud-and-Guts
Posts : 106
Join date : 2010-04-27
Age : 44
Location : Celina, TN
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:29 am | |
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Sporto
Posts : 16
Join date : 2010-09-27
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:22 am | |
| Holy SHIT! Hell has finally froze over! Congrats! Looking forward to see what all you do to this ride. Cool looking as is already. Enjoy! | |
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d6nlpg
Posts : 69
Join date : 2011-11-24
Age : 57
Location : Cullman, Al
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:40 pm | |
| save those pics........never look like that again!!!  | |
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GunRunner
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Age : 70
Location : North Georgia
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ChrisC
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Location : Marietta GA
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:06 pm | |
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Mud-and-Guts
Posts : 106
Join date : 2010-04-27
Age : 44
Location : Celina, TN
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ChrisC
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Join date : 2010-03-10
Age : 57
Location : Marietta GA
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:39 pm | |
| Trust me , you will like it much better with out the sway bar. Everyone takes that crap off. it rides a lot better , and does better in the rocks..... | |
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gimpy
Posts : 979
Join date : 2010-07-28
Location : Louisville, KY
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:19 pm | |
| Looks good but it is missing something. Yeah-MUD on it.  | |
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roadie
Posts : 81
Join date : 2011-01-07
Age : 104
Location : Obamma Villige USSR
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:37 pm | |
| I giant step forward in Fun - 2 giant steps back in reliability  . You have to pay to play.  | |
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ChrisC
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Location : Marietta GA
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:38 pm | |
| - roadie wrote:
- I giant step forward in Fun - 2 giant steps back in reliability . You have to pay to play.
Roadie , that Bullshit. if you properly maintain it and not do stupid shit. it will last as long as anything. if you don't it will break just like all the rest of them. You use to have a Tyrex , That is the biggest peace of shit that was ever made , and everyone knows that. My S is 3 years old , it has been anywhere and everywhere anyone ever go's the roughest rocks to the toughest trails. I maintain it to the hilt. i have replaced one tie rod and 2 rear upper right rear bushings. that is it. it still even has the original battery in it. You obviously are rough on you Stuff. So give it a rest will Ya.....  | |
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roadie
Posts : 81
Join date : 2011-01-07
Age : 104
Location : Obamma Villige USSR
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:30 pm | |
| Chris i'm sorry for telling the truth but get over it just because you own one don't mean it's the best  . I,m not like that if what I own isn't that good I will say it . I like people telling it like it is so I know what expect . And The Teryx was a LOT more reliable then the RZR. The only reason I bought the RZR was because it was 50" wide....... I beat the hell out of the Rhino, Teryx and RZR . The Rhino and Teryx were the most reliable by far. 1900 miles on the RZR replaced bushings 6 times replaced 1 lower a arm replaced motor mounts replaced wheel bearings replaced 2 hubs replaced 2 circut breakers replaced u joints 1 belt 3 sets of brakes stock shocks were shot at 400 miles 3 ball joints 2 tierod ends Teryx 1700 miles 3 sets of bushings 1 belt lots of plastic body parts Rhino 1600 miles 1 ball joint You tell me Chris - and I beat them all and maintaned them all the same...............  Like I said the RZR is the most fun.But f you want to play hard and have fun you have to pay. | |
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ukistopps
Posts : 130
Join date : 2010-11-02
Age : 51
Location : Lexington, KY.
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:00 pm | |
| Well, if you like to ride'm hard and race'm up and down on the throttle, beating and banging and jumping and going through the mud over rocks and just giving it hell, then yes, I have noticed things tend to ware faster. These things started out as utilty and havnt changed much other than horsepower and better suspension components. They are reaching a point of diminishing return- all of the brands. Over powered and underdesigned structurally. Hell, i had an 84 cavalier that had less horsepower that an XP 900. The more power we give them without beefing up those same componants is only going to lead to more things wearing out faster. In my opinion, if you arent mechanically inclined to work on these things yourself, then you probably shouldnt be in the busniness. These things are offroad race machines. The power to weight ratio is just plain stupid when you consider 100 horsepower in somehting that weighs less than 1500 pounds. There is no way in hell they will give these things 200 HP and the unit still way 1500 or less. The damn thing will fly apart unless its all made out of some sort of exotic materials. The cage and frame will have to be heavier. More unsprung weight, and a real steering wheel and seats! Until then, I will expect that thin walled metal frame and cage to keep bending like butter and those tiny axles to snap and little plastic bushings to ware out. Or, I could just keep it on smooth pavement or dirt and not drive the god damn shit out of it up a hill and then jump at the top to land in a mud hole 4 feet deep only to then hydroplane into a tree and cry about my radiator support bending! Rock sliders and brush guards and snorkels and full system exhausts and long travel suspensions all spell one thing, "Im going to drive the hell out of it!" What other improvements do we make to improve the longevity? Nothing! Hardly nothing at all! Weld in some gussets? Only after we bent the shit out of it hitting a rock too hard! Can-Ams, Yamahas, Hondas, Polaris, Suzuki, hell, they are all made of the same materials. Plastics and metals. What the hell is so much better? Fords, Chevys, Toyotas, Nissans, Dodge? Have we really conclusively decided which truck is better? I like to buy American, but everytime I come back from the store, I find it was made in China! Lets all make rock crawlers! real axles, steering wheels, seats and have a good ole 305 chevy smallblock! I bet we would just drive them even harder! One mans opinion! | |
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ChrisC
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Posts : 6746
Join date : 2010-03-10
Age : 57
Location : Marietta GA
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:52 pm | |
| I don't think its the best cause i own one. I bought one for that reason. There is not a better machine to do what we do than an RZR. The only real issue with RZR's is the bushings , and very simple to change. I have seen tons of problems with tyrex and Rhino's too. Dave broke everything on his rhino , he is rough on his stuff. and is on the RZR it is beat to hell and he has hardly broke anything. I read all the off road tests. they just tested an XP and an artic cat on a 3 day test. one hour in the artic cat stripped a belt off. Now that sounds like real Quality. You been talking about what a peace of shit an RZR is for years , then you turn around and buy one. Now that makes no since.  | |
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roadie
Posts : 81
Join date : 2011-01-07
Age : 104
Location : Obamma Villige USSR
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:09 pm | |
| Like I said 50" wide. I wish some one else would make something like it. I would switch brands so quick it would make your head spin. But for me there the only choice I have right now. But like I said there a ton of fun,but there just made from recycled Beer cans. I get tiered of people saying how great they are and reliable they are. When I know different. Why do you get all pissy when I tell the truth? Get over it your not going to change my opinion, just like yours won't change. You own one and so do. I but we both have too different opinions of whats good and bad. Just keep your opinions to your self and don't direct shit at me. | |
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GunRunner
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Age : 70
Location : North Georgia
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:52 pm | |
| They all break if you ride em fast and hard. A rhino looks more reliable mostly because they cant do or go where a rzr will. Take anything on the market and the more you neglect and abuse it the faster it will wear or break. You never hear from the guys who take care of there shit and drive with a concern for the machine. Some people and roadie is one could break rocks with a rubber hammer | |
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ChrisC
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Posts : 6746
Join date : 2010-03-10
Age : 57
Location : Marietta GA
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:02 pm | |
| - roadie wrote:
- Like I said 50" wide. I wish some one else would make something like it. I would switch brands so quick it would make your head spin. But for me there the only choice I have right now.
But like I said there a ton of fun,but there just made from recycled Beer cans.
I get tiered of people saying how great they are and reliable they are. When I know different. Why do you get all pissy when I tell the truth? Get over it your not going to change my opinion, just like yours won't change.
You own one and so do. I but we both have too different opinions of whats good and bad.
Just keep your opinions to your self and don't direct shit at me.
I am not directing shit at you , your the only one that bashes them 24/7 You come to an RZR forum , and and say nothing but bad shit about an RZR. What the hell did you think was going to happen...... | |
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roadie
Posts : 81
Join date : 2011-01-07
Age : 104
Location : Obamma Villige USSR
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:23 pm | |
| I own one so I can bash all I want. The reason I come the RZR forums is how to fix the problems and what to look for. With that being said . I wish people would be more honest as to all the things to look for.
And not keeping quite because they own one. Besides this is not bashing this is telling how it is. | |
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roadie
Posts : 81
Join date : 2011-01-07
Age : 104
Location : Obamma Villige USSR
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:27 pm | |
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ChrisC
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Location : Marietta GA
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:43 pm | |
| - roadie wrote:
- I own one so I can bash all I want. The reason I come the RZR forums is how to fix the problems and what to look for. With that being said . I wish people would be more honest as to all the things to look for.
And not keeping quite because they own one. Besides this is not bashing this is telling how it is. My point being. Go to RZR . net and make a big ole post that you think RZR's are a big hunk of shit. Then come back and tell me what happens... | |
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roadie
Posts : 81
Join date : 2011-01-07
Age : 104
Location : Obamma Villige USSR
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:24 pm | |
| I say the same thing on all the forums. Some people agree with me others don't. OK I will be nice. Oh I,m so happy I just broke 2 hubs but the RZR is best There is nothing better then a RZR opps I just busted another ball joint. Lets go riding this weekend -oh shit I can't I have another busted tierod end. Is that better | |
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ChrisC
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Location : Marietta GA
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:27 pm | |
| - roadie wrote:
- I say the same thing on all the forums. Some people agree with me others don't.
OK I will be nice.
Oh I,m so happy I just broke 2 hubs but the RZR is best
There is nothing better then a RZR opps I just busted another ball joint.
Lets go riding this weekend -oh shit I can't I have another busted tierod end.
Is that better You break more shit than anyone i ever seen. So lets just agree , you are hard on your Shit , and you could break a battle ship with a tooth pick , and that's all there is to it..... No one will ever make a SXS that will live up to your abuse....  | |
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ukistopps
Posts : 130
Join date : 2010-11-02
Age : 51
Location : Lexington, KY.
| | Subject: Re: Mud and Guts S Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:29 pm | |
| How in the world are you guys breaking hubs and tie rod ends so easy? I have had a RZR S and RZR XP and have never broke an axle or any of that stuff. I have had stuff wear and become loose such as the a-arm bushings, tie rod ends, and even burnt a belt up one stopping on a steep hill, plus i just recently replaced a front wheel bearing. I like to run mine out in the open some, but mostly its low speed through the woods and some hill climbs. If it gets rough, I just creep through it. I even wore out a couple sets of tires. Driving through the woods and creek beds, rocks and rutts, that stuff is pretty harsh to begin with. I love the RZR, but its not indestructable. I hate tearing stuff up. Its costly enough just to buy one let alone the whole "drive it like you stole it" philosophy. Gotta take care of your toys. My dad used to get pissed when I left my bicycle out. | |
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roadie
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